How many people on this site actually want to be a Nurse Anesthetist because they are actually interested in anesthesia? Because i get the feeling most people only want to become a CRNA because of the salary.
And at least if you want to find out about how to be a crna you should at least spell “anesthetist” right. i feel like more and more people these days want to be crna’s for all the wrong reasons and ever since that stupid article was published on yahoo about how much crna’s make… you people forget that you have to actually be a nurse and being a nurse is damn hard and a lot of work.
Comments for Want to become a CRNA for the wrong reasons?
May 13, 2014
Love the butt doctor analogy! I sure hope when my husband graduates he starts making money…he was making over $100k as a Cath lab nurse, he loved his job…he is most definitely in anesthesia for the cash. Anyone who says otherwise is not being honest with themselves.
Nov 17, 2013
Stop! Just stop being a miserable person. Go find yourself a good book to read. You sound like a 2 y.o. Stop
Feb 28, 2012
i find your site one oof the best of that kind….THANKS FOR THE SITE.You are doing a good research.Well, my question is do yu have to finish CRNA school by 2015, to avoid doctorate program in CRNA?or is it that you can escape if you have already started the program by then?Thanks,Carol.
Jan 19, 2012
I’d like to take a moment to respond to “this site is about the site administrator making money”.
My primary purpose in this site is to provide the CRNA applicant with helpful tools to be able to make an informed decision about which schools to apply to. In exchange for the time I spend maintaining the site and providing real value to visitors, I am compensated. The vast majority of highly trafficked sites on the internet return the site owner a profit. There is nothing wrong with that. People are compensated to the extent that they provide real value to others. It’s called commerce.
“Not factual about CRNA education and school reviews or income.”
All of the content from this site has been pulled from other sites: AANA, CRNA school sites, etc. I research everything that I put on this site. The school reviews are absolutely not factual. They are student’s opinions of the schools and bear no reflection of my personal views or opinions. The income data I site is backed by extensive studies. These studies are sited on the salary by state page. In case you’re wondering why I added this page, it’s because the search term “nurse anesthetist salary” has a lot of demand. The purpose of every page I add to this site is to meet the needs of my visitors.
“Tons of typos and misinformation. It’s a ‘Doctorate in Nursing’ not a “Doctor of Nursing”.
As for the typos, I apologize for them, as they are annoying, but have you honestly ever been to a site that had no typos? Every school page I drew information from had numerous typos, many of which I corrected before putting on to my site. I do try to avoid typos, but my site is not perfect. Did you notice that you spelled nursing like this: “nurseing”? I’m sure that you know how to spell the name of your own profession. It was an honest mistake. I don’t assume that you are less intelligent because you made an honest mistake.
The misinformation? I try to keep all the pages on my site as up-to-date as possible, but understand that each program changes small details in their requirements and curriculum multiple times per year, and I’m monitoring 111 schools. Because I value my visitors and want them to have the most accurate information, I have hired someone to keep my pages updated for me.
I titled my page “Doctor of Nursing”, rather than “Doctorate of Nursing” because there are lots of people typing that phrase into google, and very few sites that offer information about a “Doctor of Nursing” degree. Yes, some of the pages of my site have awkward titles, but the value is that those who are searching for those terms (and it’s a LOT of people) are able to find the information they’re looking for.
Jan 19, 2012
My Response, continued
“If you want real information you need to go the American Association of Nurse Anesthetists website.”
I believe you meant to say “you need to go to the” (another typo)… Yes, by all means, go to the source for your information rather than to my site (which is 3rd hand info). My site is meant to save the casual browser time by synthesizing a plethora of information in one place that’s easy to find. I encourage people to go directly to the source for their info. Yes, the AANA is listed on several pages. I may make a “resources page” that lists them there. That may be what you were looking for.
“Yes, while CRNAs do make more money than RN’s, it’s not the cash cow you make it out to be.”
I didn’t realize I was making the CRNA profession out to be a cash cow. I see it as a worthwhile profession that is compensated well in exchange for the risk and responsibility that CRNAs take on. I’m sorry if my image of a CRNA holding money offends you. I’ll consider taking it down. I also realize that everything I do will offend someone. The image also gives people a visual of what the page is about. Many find the image helpful. If I find a better one, I’ll replace it.
Also, have you read my “Should I Be a CRNA” page: https://www.all-crna-schools.com/be-a-crna.html? If not, I encourage you to read it, as you’ll find that I actually try to talk people out of getting into the profession if they’re in it just for the money.
Dec 20, 2011
definition of “Salary”
Please remember that salary posted on most company brochures and recruiting websites are inclusive of benefits offered to an employee, especially those trying to recruit CRNAs.
The gross salary listed, while not formally noted, often includes the cost of a health insurance plan, retirement contributions, paid vacations, conference funds, etc. that the company provides you. Your actual cash salary is less. So a supposed $183,000, is most likely 120,000 in pay.
And then you have to realize that you have just moved into a 35% tax bracket and you will be taxed VERY heavily. Federal taxes are often 30,000 or more per year. You also have Medicare and Social Security Taxes to pay, as well as state taxes.
Nurses who work ICU night shift, often have close to the same take home pay that I do.
You need to go into this for the love of anesthesia, not for the money because it is not what you are led to think it is.
Anesthesiologists take the bulk of your reimbursement in a group of MDs/CRNAs. You typically get about 20% of what is billed using your billing ID number. (and as a salary) They take the rest.
Dec 20, 2011
this site is about the site administrator making money
This site is all about the site administrator making money, not factual about CRNA education and school reviews or income. Tons of typos and misinformation. It’s a “Doctorate in Nursing” not a “Doctor of Nursing”
If you want real information you need to go the American Association of Nurse Anesthetists website. Are they even listed here? I can’t find them. Also go to your State’s Nurse Anesthesia Assocation and also your State Board of Nurseing. You will find pertinent school information, links to those schools, the latest legislations and lobbying efforts on behalf of CRNAs.
Yes, while CRNAs do make more money than RN’s, it’s not the cash cow you make it out to be. Take home salary is in the low six figures or high five figures in many states. The picture of the nurse holding a lot of money is tacky and degrades the nature of our profession. CRNAs for a long time made very little money, and only started earning a respectable salary (especially for the risk and responsibility) after they fought hard for the right to be reimbursed for services like their MD counterparts.
Feb 03, 2011
Re: want to be crna for the wrong reasons?
No I did not think about becoming a CRNA until I was actually in nursing school when I was exposed to career advancement in the field that I have a genuine interest in. I am just saying that nursing is a people’s profession, meaning that you are taking care of people in their most vulnerable states. Throughout nursing school and even now, I see students and nurses who have horrible bedside manner and are disinterested in caring for their patients because god forbid they actually have to touch them.
And you are right, some people in medicine go into other specialties because there is a demand and they are paid nicely.
I bring up that yahoo article, well actually cnn… http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/11/news/economy/health_care_doctor_incomes/index.htm
the whole point is that being a CRNA is now the “sexy” profession and its attracting a lot of ugly people who are not genuinely interested in anesthesia or patient care but more interested in making 150K a year.
Feb 03, 2011
RealRN, let me ask you a question….
When you were 7 or 8 years old, did you dream of putting people to sleep for a living?
When you were playing “make believe” with your friends, did you tell them to “play dead” so you could administer anesthesia on them?
… or did you pretend to live in a fancy house, drive a fancy car and buy lots of things?
There are many professions out there, and people choose them for different reasons. For example: Pediatricians are probably pediatricians because they like science, and they like children. Most of them are not “in it for the money.” How do I know this? They don’t make much! They go through 8 years of schooling, then 3 years of residency, all for roughly $150k a year!
On the other hand, there’s the butt doctor (excuse my language… the proctologist). Do you think they grew up thinking “oh boy! I’d love to examine butts for the rest of my life!”
Most likely, they decided at some point in time that they wanted to make a lot of money. They like the things that money can buy, and they knew they were intelligent, had a strong interest in science, and there was a need for butt doctors at the time they picked their specialty.
So it is with the nurse anesthetist. As a Junior in high school, the student does a little research, finds out that:
1.They want to make a large income.
2.They are good at science
3.They want to pick a career that is in demand, so they’ll never have to be out of work.
4.They don’t want to spend 1/2 their life in school (scratch “medical school” off the list).
“Wow,” they think to themselves, “looks like becoming a nurse anesthetist is a great option! I think I’ll do some more searching and see what else I can find!”
Enter, ignorant student on all-crna-schools.com, looking for answers.
Maybe 2/3rds of these seekers will decide that it’s too much work for them, but that’s their choice! It doesn’t hurt for them to do a little more digging.
Yes, nursing is a challenging profession, but so is anything that earns money! Most people recognize that with a higher income comes greater responsibility. People who are genuinely interested in earning a high salary are usually willing to jump through the necessary hoops to get there.