I can't believe one of the CRNAs above equated residency to a job at McDonalds or actually that you learn more if you work at McDonalds. That statement alone shows that you have no concept of reality. Learn to be a professional before you try and claim to be.
Feb 06, 2012 Rating
Ever NoticeNEW by: Anonymous
Is it me or do you always find that nurses seem to be the most critical of us and our education?? Its almost like they're angry about what they've not accomplished.... With that being said I do agree with a lot of these comments on here about what to call us when one gets their doctorate. I have both my DNP and PhD...all from well recognized schools (VCU and DUKE), and I still feel like it can be deceiving for patients to call myself "doctor." I think there still needs to be a vast change in our healthcare system before we start doing that. And for the record of our math whizzes out there.....the average anesthetist going for their DNP or PhD will give you the same, if not more years of training that MDs.
Feb 13, 2011 Rating
Try that calculation out one more time by: All-CRNA-Schools-Joy
CRNA with a Doctor of Nursing Practice:
4 years BS
3 years TOTAL for DNP (2 years minimum for MS, 1 year minimum for DNP)
=7 years
ICU experience, though mandatory, provides you with full time pay and complete autonomy and is therefore not part of the equation.
Medical Doctor:
4 years BS
4 years Medical School (you're still paying to learn)
3-4 years residency - you work 60-100 hours a week for a small salary. You'd earn more per hour working at McDonalds.
=11-12 years
Feb 12, 2011 Rating
Do the Math by: Anonymous
Do the math. BSN, 4 years (at least), Mandatory ICU experience, 2 years. Masters, 3 years, Doctorate, 2-3 years. Total; 11-12 years, more than an MD.
Dec 21, 2010 Rating
also.. by: Anonymous
nice way of expressing yourself professionally by using the "b" word, I believe you have just proven my point
Dec 21, 2010 Rating
what?? by: Anonymous
It is NEVER acceptable to say to a pt "I am Dr. So and So and I will be doing your anesthesia today" as a CRNA paired with a real medical doctor, that's absurd. It is very deceptive to the patients, and one instructor that I observed at FHCHS did such a thing and the pt and family were furious, and this became a very big issue. So it is always important to be upfront and clear with peers and patients, and YES there are doctors of philosophy, pharmacy etc out there but I certainly don't trust them to do my anesthesia, good for you if you do.
Dec 20, 2010 Rating
I CAN BE CALLED A DOCTOR WITHOUT GOING TO MEDICAL SCHOOL by: Anonymous
YOU CAN EARN THE RIGHTS TO BE CALLED A DOCTOR WITHOUT GOING TO MEDICAL SCHOOL. THEY ARE DOCTOR OF PHARMACY, DOCTOR OF PHYLOSOPHY, MEDICAL DOCTOR, DOCTOR OF PODIATRY, DOCTOR OF DENTAL MEDICINE, DOCTOR OF NURSING, DOCTOR OF WHATEVER....THE TERM DOCTOR EXISTED WAY BEFORE THERE WAS SUCH A THING AS MEDICAL DOCTOR. YOU ARE NOT A NURSE. YOU ARE MEDICAL STUDENT WANNA BE AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. GOING AROUND MASQUERADING AS MEDICAL DOCTOR WITH A PhD IS DECEPTIVE, HAVING SAID THAT, PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO EARN THE TITLE DOCTOR OF WHATEVER THEY WERE AWARDED. ALWAYS REMEMBER THEY ARE MEDIOCRE MDs AROUND AND THEY GENIUSES AROUND THAT CHOSE NOT TO GO TO MEDICAL SCHOOL. THE EQUIPMENTS USED BY MDs TO HELP THEM PRACTICE ARE EGINEERED BY NON-MDs, THE COMPUTER YOU ARE USING TO READ THIS PIECE WAS NOT DESIGNED BY A MD, THESE ARE VERY SMART PEOPLE THAT DESIGNED BRIDGES, THE ROAD SYSTEM, THAT FOUND ELECTRICITY AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE CALLED DOCTORS PARTNER. IGNORANT, LOW SELF ESTEEM B****
