FHCHS CRNA Program Review

by MBK3
(Orlando,FL)

Terrible program, unorganized "staff" of 2; program director and assistant. OK clinical experience but consider Barry first, better bang for your buck.

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Oct 07, 2012
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Too much false information
by: Anonymous

The PD wasn't fired she was offered a recurring role in an off Broadway comedy!!! Come on people the truth is already out there.

Oct 06, 2012
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Seriously get over it
by: JD

Who even cares why old PD was fired or where she works or how well she's doing after getting canned etc etc, nobody cares! The new PD is doing a great job. She's also doing a good job of straightening out the program and that's all anyone should be concerned with.

Oct 06, 2012
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Ha!
by: Anonymous

I graduated 2012. The school is very poorly run and you need to keep your head down and study like crazy to get through it. I'm guessing the name change came because of many problems and a really bad reputation. A lot of students disliked the program and felt like experimental guinea pigs because the program is new and they cut a lot of corners. I have a great job now and I'm happy but I would rather be subjected to water torture than deal with people like this again. I agree JLR is a great group and the only worthwhile reason to go here. I suspect the employees are doing a lot of commenting on here...

Sep 13, 2012
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It is what you make it!
by: Anonymous

I just wanted to say that I absolutely love the JLR group and all of the exceptional experience that I have gotten from them. I would have to say that 99% of the staff has been wonderful. There are lazy or uninterested people everywhere you go, but they are few and far between at JLR.

There are many JLR providers that I would trust with my life and are also great people. Yes, we all have bad days, but for the most part we are given a lot of autonomy with this group. We get clinical experience that a lot of other schools do not offer. I have been told this by graduates of UNF, USF, Wolford, and Barry.

The program is what you make of it, whether you leave at 1500 or not. If you choose to pass up great experiences because you are tired, then you are only hurting yourself.

As far as the school goes, if you aren't a driven person, good luck to you. The program is a joke at this point. I have learned a lot, but a huge part of my learning experience has been from my clinical rotations and relying on my own drive to learn the material.

The school is lost when it comes to organization and qualified instructors. It was a much better place before they fired the PD. She was at least very knowledgeable when it came to didactic learning and was very good at presenting the material. This program definitely has issues, but a lot of them do.

Sep 12, 2012
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Ridiculous misinformation.....
by: Anonymous

I'm not sure who is so concerned with commenting constantly about this program- but most of you are highly misinformed. I'm a current student here.

Yes, the old PD was fired- due to administration of the school - nothing with accreditation or anything else involving the program. The PD is currently employed at Wake Forrest (A highly regarded anesthesia program). The assistant PD was NOT fired- went on to work at another school in south Florida on her own accord.

Yes, the school changed the name- big freaking deal. So they wanted it to say University in the title- whatever. It's amazing how immature what I can only guess are adults employed in this field are on this website!

You get out of any anesthesia program what you put in- they all have their own specific issues and if you say yours didn't, I don't believe you. But if the students that graduated from this program were truly terribly prepared, the anesthesia group associated wouldn't hire any of them after 18 months of clinicals (basically an incredibly long interview) nor would there be a 100% board pass rate the last 2 years (another commonly misinformed statistic on this page).

If you don't know the facts- shut up already! No one really cares about your random opinions. If you don't like working with students- go work somewhere else.

Sep 08, 2012
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Now they changed the name??
by: Anonymous

They are too cheap to hire quality educators here. This place is just a hot mess. If you are smart enough to do well on the GRE then you are smart enough to go to a different school.

Sep 02, 2012
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Something strange is afoot
by: Anonymous

They just changed the name of the school, they fired the PD and the assistant, and the new director hasn't fully finished her Ph.D work. That's a few big red flags right there.

Aug 04, 2012
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All good things!
by: Anonymous

Wow is all I can say! All these negative posts are so childish and it makes me scared to start in January 2013! I've heard nothing but good things about FHCHS except the fact the it's hard school to get in to!

Can anyone give me some positive insight about the difficulty level of being accepted for admission into FHCHS? What all do I need to do to qualify for the general admission criteria? Besides the obvious of course :)

Also, I've heard a background check is needed before admission after being accepted...why and what would keep you from getting in? Drug charges? Shoplifting? Forgery? Not that I have any of them but I'm just curious what kind of convictions are unacceptable for being a student at FHCHS and which ones are unacceptable for getting your RN license??

Any info would help ease my anxiety about being told that it's a hard school to get in to constantly by everyone around me, and since its the ONLY school I want to go to it's like they're trying to crush my dreams!! Thanks in advance and lets stay positive out there ;)

Jul 20, 2012
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Bashing
by: Anonymous

I just stumbled across this page and am in dismay as to the bashing that is going back and forth between the CRNA's & SRNA's. We create our own drama, and to be pulled into that drama and allow ourselves to be controlled by that drama is unprofessional. These comments that have been made are opinions of others and everyone has a right to express their opinion. I hope that others understand that there is a difference between logical opinion and opinion driven by emotions. There are many sides to a story and the truths are seen in different ways. It is up to the person receiving that information to decipher what is true and not true keeping in mind that every experience is individual and every interaction with someone is what you make of it and how you turn it around to be a positive learning experience. That is the behavior of a professional!!!!!! Sometimes we may not be able to control what is thrown at us, but it is how we respond that makes the experience worth wild.

Jul 14, 2012
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Funny
by: Anonymous

There aren't any more "glowing" reviews on here since the PD got fired.

Jul 06, 2012
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Truthful information
by: Anonymous

I am hopefully getting finished next April. A few months ago the PD was fired and now something very shady is going on with the assistant who is also leaving in a few weeks. I am a ball of nerves all the time with all the changes and the teaching here is not good and I feel that I am a good student. CRNA school is tough enough without this added stress. Another year seems a long way off. I would advise people not to go here. Honest opinion.

Jul 06, 2012
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My opinion
by: Benny

is that this place is the school equivalent to the Titanic

Jun 13, 2012
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Lawsuits
by: Anonymous

It is a reasonable expectation that all students will be treated fairly and equally. If this does not occur, and there is a paper trail, then you end up with a lawsuit. Just like a job, you need to treat everyone the same with the same set of rules.

Jun 12, 2012
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Smoke
by: MT

Where there's smoke there is usually fire they say...

Jun 12, 2012
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Insider info
by: Anonymous

Claims that the school is, in fact, worried about losing their accreditation due to things that were done before the guard was changed. That's why there was a recent change in administration. It seems time will tell if they can fix their issues, they just took a big step to change.

Jun 11, 2012
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They won't be reviewed until May 2013
by: Admin

I'm amazed at all the rumors that go around. FHCHS won't be reviewed for another year, and they have a new program director.

Whatever you've heard, the school has time enough to fix their issues before they face the review board, so anything that is being said now is just hearsay.

Jun 11, 2012
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Accredidation?
by: Anonymous

I have heard that FHCHS may not pass their COA accredidation.

I have also heard that the program may be shutting down.

Can anyone provide some insight into this?

Thanks!

Jun 09, 2012
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I really hope the MDA teaching pharm keeps going!
by: Anonymous

I have been admitted to the FHCHS class beginning in Jan 2013 and have heard that the teacher and class for Pharma is exceptional. I hope this professor decides to stay with FHCHS!
KUDOS

May 19, 2012
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Changing its name
by: Lb

Rumor is they are changing the name of the school. Too much bad publicity maybe?

May 15, 2012
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program directors...
by: Anonymous

Seems like program directors get fired, demoted, transferred quite a bit in many programs - lots of politics in anesthesia. Other schools go through directors like they are water too.

what I don't understand is why people who aren't good students feel they deserve to graduate from a program and go into a field where they directly impact people's health - and when they do poorly and get kicked out, they then sue schools. No one guarantees completion of any program. And would you want those people taking care of you?

May 15, 2012
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gripe gripe gripe
by: Anonymous

You are in the big leagues now - going into a PROFESSION, where what you DON'T know will surely hurt or kill someone who entrusts you in their care. This is NOT nursing school. Someday you may be the ONLY provider working in the middle of the night somewhere and you will need to be able to act and think independently with an educated and experienced mind. Will you really be ready?

Your griping about your need to leave at three, about all of the money you are spending, about not getting paid to do the crnas or MDs "work" (who are supervising you), and just complaining in general needs to stop. Your comments are just more ammunition for anesthesiologists to say that the new breed coming out of crna programs (crna mills) are just substandard assistants and no longer independent practitioners that have been highly educated for the past 100 years.

Spend time on your studies and perfecting your skills in clinicals rather than whining and complaining all the time about how tough you have it. Surgeons and anesthesiologists don't leave at precisely 3 pm during their residency and neither should you. No other crna program does either.

Doing just the minimum to get through the program and constantly making excuses is doing yourself (and your patients) a huge disservice and you will be totally unprepared to practice when you get out. There is no practicum or orientation or transition period when you get a job. You will be expected to function pretty independently on your first day. I am glad I can choose who does my anesthesia care. Most patients can't and that is a scary thought.

May 11, 2012
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Can anyone give me an update?
by: Carmen

Does anyone know why [name omitted] got fired, I am very concerned about what happened. I spoke to [name omitted] on the phone and in my opinion he was very mean and abrupt. I have an interview and would appreciate more information from perhaps a current student that knows what happened. I interviewed at Wolford too, I'm leaning there but would like to have complete information. Thank you

May 11, 2012
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to
by: Anonymous

You aren't the only one with family and the only one who paid a lot for your education, so don't assume things. Your school decided you should leave at 3, but in the real world that won't happen. Your babysitter will have to stay late or start early because the group you work for doesn't accommodate babysitting issues when cases run late or emergencies come through the door. This is a profession that requires a lot of flexibility not a job at Home Depot.

This is also a residency program - not a "job you aren't getting paid for". The only program where people get paid to learn is medicine. The day you start as a CRNA you need to be able to function independently. No one (and I mean no one) will be holding your hand, so the more time you are doing anesthesia in school, the better. Many in your program are weak (and unsafe) because they do just the minimum to graduate.

May 08, 2012
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Wow
by: Anonymous

Does anyone know why PD was fired???? That's really bad

Apr 27, 2012
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PLEASE BE ADVISED!!
by: Anonymous

FHCHS posted on their website that 18 students graduated in 2011 but only 16 students actually graduated that year. It is important for the future applicants to understand that this school has made false claims about graduating student's success rate.

The COA has been notified about this problem. This is one of the many problems with how This school is run. It is only fair that the real facts are presented to future student in the program. I can only hope that people deeply consider the many poor reviews this school has received. Please reconsider before applying to this facility.

Apr 26, 2012
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FH worker
by: Anonymous

I work at Florida Hospital, my wife wants to go to CRNA school but someone that works in the anesthesia dept told me the school is going to close.

Apr 26, 2012
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ADMISSION PROCESS
by: Anonymous

Internal administrative problem shows up even with admissions office. I couldn't get online contact with any nursing senior staff. Because of one missing transcript, my application will be reviewed next year. The admission office lady was blunt...Good luck with FHCHS. It is out of my list.

Apr 24, 2012
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Do your research
by: Anonymous

FHCHS's website advertises that 18 out of 23 students graduated in the class of 2011. This, in fact, is not true as only 16 actually graduated. It is a violation of the COA standards to falsely inflate numbers and this has been brought to the attention of the school. It is unfair and misleading to potential students.

As a CRNA it is important to protect the profession from places attempting to "mill" out students without proper training, I implore potential CRNA students to do their research before applying to ANY school.

Apr 24, 2012
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False numbers- Beware
by: JM

The website is falsely stating that 18 students graduated in 2011. If you research this, only 16 actually graduated. If they have to falsify numbers right out of the gate, it makes you wonder what else is false. Please do your research before applying to any CRNA school. As a CRNA it concerns me that many of these newer CRNA schools "mill" students and don't give a proper education. We need to protect our profession.

Apr 24, 2012
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Looks like
by: Anonymous

Things caught up with the administrator, she was terminated today. Hopefully things will run fairly and equally from this point on. It's a shame because it could have been a good program.

Apr 24, 2012
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well...
by: Anonymous

it looks like they were concerned about the bad reputation since the PD was fired today :(

Mar 17, 2012
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Poor program
by: Anonymous

The order of the curriculum changes constantly.

Mar 03, 2012
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Hmm
by: Anonymous

In response, I have young children in day care. I spend a lot of money to attend school and pay for day care. So yes I do need to leave at 3 as I am supposed to, not continue to do work I am not being paid for. As I stated before some of us are in school to get a job that will allow us to better support our families. Perhaps you had the luxury of attending when you were younger and didn't have anyone to support. Don't judge everyone as a whole and don't make comments that some of us just don't feel like staying because that's not the case. Also don't compare our experience to yours saying you had it worse. It seems like the CRNAs at JLR have a pretty great deal going on with this job.

Feb 28, 2012
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Response
by: Anonymous

As the moderator stated - post only objective information. To "Talk about Respect" - spouting off bitter diatribes in this forum, as an anonynous person, without having the facts -post YOUR name so you can be accountable for the slams you continue to make about JLR and your school. I am sure that the group would love to hear from you face to face. We know you are not "children", but this beavior is child like.

Maybe this is not the right profession for you. You are going to be dealing with worse politics once you get out into the work world. And ALL schools have their own issues and hoops to jump through. It is a long, grueling program for a reason. Maybe you should just focus on studying and clinicals and seek out every opportunity for learning that you can find. (Leaving at three every day does NOT prepare you for the real world of anesthesia. Sorry!)

If you think the CRNAs talk about the students, the MDs talk about you even more, not the other way around. (My program was even worse than this one!) Believe me, most of the MDs did not want a CRNA program at the hospital. They dislike CRNA students immensely. (and that is nationwide -with a continual push for AA's) You will be talked about whether you like it or not. This is the longest job interview you will ever have. The group decides early on if you will fit in - both clinically and in your personality. And that decides if you get hired here afterwards. And cellphones are a way of life. Get over it.

As for the CRNAs being fired to make room for new grads, that is wrong too. You need to get your facts straight. Only four or five people have been let go (as apposed to the 70 that have been hired) in the past few years. And they were let go for performance issues, not to be replaced by cheaper labor.

We might be more eager to teach you if you were as receptive as you say you are. Some of you have already decided you know everything and don't listen to what we have to say. Have some humility instead of such arrogance. I have had students say "whatever" to me when I have redirected their (unsafe) practice. Really? That kind of disrespect would have lead to a student being sent home where I trained and having to make up a clinical day. We are MUCH less hard on you.

Feb 26, 2012
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Think before you post
by: Joy-All-CRNA-Schools.com

Please post only if you have something objective and truthful to say.

Jan 24, 2012
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Im not surprised
by: N

I am not surprised this school is being sued. I attended another graduate program before coming here and it was like night and day. There is no professionalism here and the higher ups don't seem to be too concerned about the bad reputation of this school. There was a lot of added nonsense I should not have had to deal with here. The director seems overwhelmed and gets defensive if students try to question anything. If you open a graduate program you need to have experienced professionals running it, not someone inexperienced who brings along relatives and gives them jobs. I would advise people to look into another program that is straight forward. Florida has other programs that have been in business a long time and they do things correctly.

Jan 17, 2012
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Bad school
by: Anonymous

All I can say is that I felt treated more as a child than an adult graduate student and anytime I go into the office I get scolded for things there is never any documentation or proof of.

Jan 11, 2012
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Terrible
by: Anonymous

Terrible program. Completely unorganized. Staff is all intertwined with PD friends, relatives etc so things are not always fair. It's really a shame because JLR is a good clinical group to work with but you don't get what you need from the program to prepare for clinical. Anyone who says "teach yourself" misses the point of a school completely, like you can "teach yourself" how to run a mortuary or "teach yourself" to be a dentist. Really??

Jan 01, 2012
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Talk about respect!
by: Anonymous

Ha! Talk about respect? It goes both ways. We respect you, you respect us. Being a student doesn't make us children. A lot of you perceptors call yourselves Christians, and all you do is sit behind us in clinicals sending text messages about us to each other instead of teaching us something. You would rather play up to the MDs and ridicule the students in front of them to make yourselves look good. The MDs may be harder on us, but for the most part they teach. Because your hours were longer during training doesn't mean we have to stay and do the work for you, so you can spend more time on Facebook, shopping online or texting about us.

JLR has fired staff who have been with them for years to hire new grads... why? my bet is it's all about economics! So some of the preceptors as someone pointed out are new grads trying to find their feet. But at least they are more willing to share their 'pearls' and tell us what worked best for them.

The school is terrible! Very dodgy. To people applying, think twice! Go somewhere else...

Dec 27, 2011
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Haha
by: Anonymous

Yes, the person claiming to be from 2012 is a perfect ad for this school. Typically EXACTLY what goes to school here.

Dec 24, 2011
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Wow
by: Anonymous

Classy to say that people who don't pass should be kicked out and that should be the end of it. People have life issues that come up such as divorce or death and you show no compassion whatsoever. Hard to believe you are a nurse with that attitude! Good luck to whoever hires someone like you if you even make it out in 2012, many people who think they are smart like you do fail the boards or can't get along with people because of their superiority complex. You need a reality check.

Dec 21, 2011
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Clinical questions
by: Anonymous

And answers I have gotten usually differ from the ones we get asked on tests. When questioned, the instructors usually say the answers are "not the first choice" or just flat out wrong, often contradicting themselves in the meantime. With 23 months in I should contact the COA and complain knowing how crazy these people are? The purpose of this site is to rate the school and it's a pretty crummy place. I think even at JLR this is a known fact bc I hear how PD is discussed in the doctors lounge by JLR employees

Dec 21, 2011
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Reviews
by: Anonymous

The only positive ones are from pd and all her family members employed here to try to get more saps to pay all their salaries

Dec 20, 2011
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CRNA response
by: Anonymous

Yes, we were students once too, but we were respectful to our preceptors, both to their face and behind their back. We did whatever was asked of us without complaint. Our clinical requirements were much more stringent and the hours much, much longer (in ADDITION TO the didactics.)

You are not going to like everyone who you train under, but the CRNAs are much easier on you than the MDs will ever be.

JLR has a lot of "new" staff, only because Florida Hospital expanded many of its services and the company responded to the needs in the past couple of years. There isn't a lot of turnover. It is much more difficult to go through credentialing and the hiring process in this profession. You don't apply today and start work tomorrow. It's a whole different ball game as an ARNP.

If you have a problem with the school you need to go to the AANA and voice your concerns, not this unsponsored, unregulated, unsanctioned site and gripe anonymously. It only reflects on your unprofessionalism and immaturity. No one guarantees you an excellent education anywhere, even Harvard. You get out of it what you put into it. We have IVY league graduates who aren't any better than those who have a public college education.

Dec 20, 2011
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from crna
by: Anonymous

No, We DON'T get paid to train you.

No, we don' make a gazillion bucks. Check your facts. The MD's get the money. We get maybe 20% of what is billed under our provider number. Our benefits get cut more and more each year. My take home pay after taxes is less than six figures.

The students often don't even ask questions. We have to usually direct the entire case, because your critical thinking skills are lacking.

Sorry you are with a "new" crna. We also have "new" docs. We don't get to choose the student we are with.

I am "on my iphone" - looking up meds and case information. I may check email - to get information from my company and to make sure my family is doing okay. I am stuck in a room all day with little time for a bathroom break or lunch until late in the evening. You are done at three p.m.

Other programs are much more stringent and the clinical hours are much longer. You are lucky - you get to leave at three.

I don't want someone who applies to a program because they think they are going to have an easy education taking care of me..... You need to jump all those hoops and figure out how to succeed even if you think your program is not great and quit griping. That is part of the growth that comes with being a professional. There is NO crying in anesthesia....

This is an inappropriate forum to vent your frustrations. You don't know who is reading these posts. It could be your future employer.

Dec 19, 2011
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To CRNA
by: Anonymous

I believe most of the complaints are not with JLR, I feel they give a solid training. However, the school itself is an entirely different entity. There is a great deal of bias, grades fluctuate to suit the PD, and tests or quizzes are graded several times and the student is unclear on what is right or wrong. Also let me be frank, there is favoritism that goes on here as well as all the family members that are working in the office or taking classes who are quite obviously treated differently than the rest of the students. Nothing is fair at this school and there are no objective support systems for the students, there are no advocates. So you spend tons of money, hold your breath and try to avoid the office at all costs. Something is definitely not right at this school and I don't think it will be long before they get majorly dinged for it. Its 2011 and you can't treat people unfairly just because you think you are in a power position when in reality you do not have the respect of your peers over at JLRand it is a known fact. Thank you

Dec 19, 2011
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Please re-post
by: Joy-All-CRNA-Schools.com

Because of a problem I was having with spam, there are a few comments that were left that I did not approve. If you've left a comment you feel should've been approved and wasn't, please re-post, and I'm very sorry for any frustration this may have caused you.

Dec 19, 2011
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It's
by: Anonymous

An easier school to get into than others, they do not require the GRE

Dec 19, 2011
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what?
by: Anonymous

Most of the CRNA's I work with spend time on their computers, phones, ipads etc, and can't be bothered to answer me when I have a question. A lot of the time I am paired up with a new grad anyway,so what kind of a group would pair up a student with someone who was a student themselves 6 months ago. Maybe instead of complaining about us you should actually try to teach something. It's what you get paid a gazillion bucks to do, not web surf!!

Dec 19, 2011
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What?
by: Anonymous

Our instructors tell us you guys get paid to train us so don't act like you are doing this for free, you were once a student too

Dec 19, 2011
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funny
by: To JLR CRNA

Most of the people I get stuck with from your group are brand new themselves and seem to be pretty shaky, what is over half the JLR group new grads? Maybe because of high turnover?

Dec 18, 2011
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A JLR CRNA PART 2
by: Anonymous

If you are not "alone in a room" at the end of your senior year with an MD supervising, it's because the group does not trust you. And before that it's because NONE of us trust you. Our names are on that chart right along with yours and if you screw something up, WE are the ones called on the carpet for it. This is serious stuff.

So many students are so cavalier and have attitudes. You push drugs without discussing it with us. You cut patient's lips. You don't pay attention. Your patients laryngospasm, vomit, buck. Your on your phone instead of listening to the surgeon. He's yelling at me because you don't know what you are doing. You don't present a plan for your patients, so we have no idea what you are even prepared for. I have seen some pretty stupid stuff. We have had patients die in the hands of students. No one wants that liability. This is MY license and career. I have been doing this for years, and I know what I am doing. It is exhausting teaching you guys all day, and for what? A bad attitude and the disparaging comments here because we critique your performance. Many of YOU are sub-par. And you have so many excuses about why you aren't prepared. THAT is why you are not alone. You might be a nurse, but you are NOT certified to pass anesthesia on your own until you graduate and pass that exam. School is just the beginning of your learning. You have no idea. There is nothing routine about what we do.

What other programs do, is, in my opinion, wrong. Someone NEEDs to be watching you. I don't ever want to have an anesthetic performed by a student who is by themselves in a room.

Anesthesia school is not a guaranteed ticket to graduation, or even a job. JLR takes very few graduates from each class. This is the longest job interview you will ever have - 28 months in this program. Believe me, we all talk about who will be a good addition to our group and who won't. We didn't ask for this school to be here. We had been without students for over 20 years and very happy with it.

Dec 18, 2011
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A JLR CRNA
by: Anonymous

Anesthesia school is SUPPOSED to be difficult. You need to be on your A+ game. YOU alone are responsible for the patient you are anesthetizing. Some day you might be working in Alaska as the sole provider so you better be d*** good at it. You need to be sure you know what the F*** you are doing or you may kill someone.

There is no spoonfeeding in any program just like there is no spoonfeeding in medical school... Your program is what you make of it. You need to find the resources to succeed if being a CRNA is something you really desire to do. You are competing against Anesthesiologists for the right to practice and the right for reimbursement. You really have no idea about the politics and the push by MDAs to shut us down. They are a huge financial machine with a very large lobbying group. Every lazy, poorly prepared student makes us all look bad, and puts our whole CRNA profession on the slippery slope of losing our ability to practice. The whining and griping I over hear among the students in our doctor's lounge is disgusting.

Dec 18, 2011
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Quick comment
by: Anonymous

This was not my first choice school but I applied here and to a few other schools. Initially PD was nice on the phone but when I asked about some of my concerns like trauma rotation, the low numbers etc she got really pretty nasty. That pretty much made my decision, and she never answered any of my questions. I thought this was unprofessional too. That's all

Nov 26, 2011
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I doubt
by: Anonymous

This is about people being mad or having failed; it's about trying to save people (who are about to spend a serious amount of money) the bs that this school is notorious for.

Nov 25, 2011
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Relieved
by: Anonymous

I chose Barry over this school, I worked for FH and heard about all the shady things that went on, I'm glad I chose an established school. I recommend Barry to anyone thinking of going to CRNA school, call up their NA staff they are very nice and helpful in getting you started along this career path. Good luck!!

Nov 22, 2011
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most
by: Anonymous

of the negative comments come from actual experience; I think its funny that rather than address the poor statistics this school has (which are facts) other writers attack and say "oh you must have failed blah blah" all you need to do is look at the numbers of what this place produces. It is sad when your only argument is that these writers failed out or are angry.

Oct 30, 2011
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confused...
by: Anonymous

forget this school...i don't know who is right or wrong...but this school is obviously tainted....

Oct 26, 2011
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If
by: Anonymous

You weren't in the class of 2011 you don't know what really went on. Also people with poor grammar should not throw stones

Oct 25, 2011
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Get Over It!
by: Anonymous

It sounds like most of the negative comments are from students who failed out, or weren't accepted into the program. Working for Florida Hospital does not mean guaranteed entry, and being accepted into the program does not mean guaranteed success!

People need to stop taking out their frustrations on this board and go seek counseling.

Oct 25, 2011
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To Rebuttal
by: Anonymous

Wow, you don't know anything about the 2 students who "failed", I was in the class and I DID graduate class of 2011. They were my friends, and they actually did pass the class until the PD "changed" the grades. You shouldn't say something about a situation you have no idea about. I work for JLR now, I sure hope they don't hire you. My class had a lot of obstacles. You were not in my class so don't pretend you know all the "facts" because you don't. And if you are truly in the class of 2012 you better not count your chickens before they hatch with your (not you're) cockiness. That's all I'm writing on this board, not going to contribute to all this poison.

Oct 25, 2011
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Rebuttal
by: Anonymous

Needs to take an English class, it's "you're"; sub par anyone??

Oct 25, 2011
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no
by: Anonymous

there was only 15 at the graduation

Oct 25, 2011
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Rebuttal
by: Anonymous

Wow. Sounds like your the one who failed. Actually I do have a beef with the program, and that is... it's too forgiving to sub-par students. I recall that two students failed one particular class and were given the chance to retake that class. In most programs, you fail your out and that's the end of it. I was actually upset that they authorized these students to return. But that's just me. People fail programs; being accepted into an anesthesia program doesn't mean your guaranteed graduating. For that you have to actually work for. Yes 16 graduated this year from the initial "22" I believe. Multiple reasons behind those who failed, some gave up in the beginning, others weren't capable of keeping up with the class.

My advice... grow up and stop being so bitter about your experience. Mommy can't hold your hand forever.

Oct 24, 2011
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A real Student
by: Anonymous

Sounds like the head of the school wrote that comment...

Oct 24, 2011
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Wrong
by: Anonymous

How many students graduated in 2011??

Oct 24, 2011
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Better pass rate
by: Anonymous

Bc only 16 made it out

Oct 24, 2011
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also..
by: Anonymous

anyone who describes any CRNA program as "pleasurable" is NOT in a CRNA program, any good one is hard to say the least

Oct 24, 2011
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surprised?
by: Anonymous

who are you? bc the first class did disastrously on boards and no, at least one person out of the 16 that just graduated failed.

Oct 23, 2011
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Surprised by previous comments
by: Anonymous

Wow. Reading this list of comments makes me wonder if I'm actually in this same school. I am a current student and I'm surprised to see how many people report having a bad experience at FHCHS. With that said, my experience has been pleasurable to say the least. Yes, we've had a handful of lectures from previous students, but I'm talking about a handful. Most lectures were given by the PD and assistant PD, while various others were by MD's from the Hospital where we train. The latter being the best lectures I've ever had (Especially [...]). Furthermore, Pharmacology was introduced to students entirely through an exceptional practicing Anesthesiologist who is also a PharmD.

Keeping facts straight, 2 groups have graduated from the college, the 1st graduating class of 2010 with a +- 60% pass rate and subsequent 2nd graduating class of 2011 with a 100% pass rate. Needless to say by these numbers that the kinks have been worked out. In reference to reports of "self-study," I can't imagine how someone can expect all the material for a given subject being lectured upon in a class room. The lecture facilitates learning and directs the student, but one must be willing to read endless pages in a graduate program for success.

In reference to the clinical setting we have 7 Florida Hospitals campuses of which we have no competition for cases with other schools (neither other SRNA's or Anesthesia Residents). Yes we don't have adequate independent practice in program, and that is something that bothers me, but at the same time, I'm offered experience from over 200 practicing CRNA's and MDA's which enriches my practice. Nowadays they mostly sit in their corner and watch me anyways, but at times instructs me as to better ways to handle a situation.

I for one am currently having a great experience at FHCHS and unlike the CRNA mills that live nearby feel support from faculty and staff, moreover I feel confident that when graduating in April of 2012 I will be a capable anesthetist with vast exposure to open hearts, vascular, ENT, ECT, orthopedic, OB, among other various cases.

Jul 27, 2011
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no
by: Anonymous

These comments are from the two classes that have gone through, and you want to think carefully about attending this school truthfully if you intend on spending this amount of money. They will tell you whatever you want to hear about the program until you are too far in to have any control over what happens next. These postings are true accounts, and for a program that harps on how religious they are they are evil evil people. Unfair treatment all around, they decide who gets what grade on what test. Just wait until you see how they have to "scale" the exams and quizzes and won't show you what you got right or wrong. I would never in a million years go here again, and yes after only 2 classes having gone through they are being sued by several people. Good luck with what you decide, some advice-stay as far away from this school as you can.

Jul 19, 2011
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A disaster
by: Anonymous

The teachers are senior students, or they may get a crna here and there to teach a class then they disappear, sometimes they bring an MD from the hospital associated with same religion but as before they disappear. Therefore when its time for tests brace yourself, nobody knows what was covered in class and the test is totally unrelated. This school is a disaster.

Jun 23, 2011
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wow
by: Anonymous

Some scary comments... for someone that has just received the acceptance letter. Not sure whether to panic or not. Sounds like you are all from one class.

Jun 16, 2011
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Want a quality education?
by: Anonymous

You won't find it here especially from the head moron and her minions. Save your cash or be smart and pick another school.

Apr 13, 2011
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"Christian" school
by: GC

but have NO ethics whatsoever

Apr 11, 2011
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Aint
by: Anonymous

Nobody here to smart!

Apr 10, 2011
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For real?
by: Anonymous

I went to nursing school where everyone said the same thing after they were in the program, and I went to a very good school. Are the complaints founded or are you simply used to your hand being held and being spoon fed info? The national pass rate is about 90% so either you are just not as smart as you think or its the school you are going to. My guess is that you just aren't that smart! Quit bashing the people who gave you a chance in the first place.

Apr 10, 2011
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Tests
by: Anonymous

Graded on a bell curve system so you get about 5 grades before your final one. Then they don't go over the tests unless it's very fast so you don't know what you got wrong

Apr 09, 2011
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Graduating
by: Anonymous

and relieved I made it through. These past 2 years have truly been hell on earth. I am very surprised to see the"good" reviews on here because I don't think anyone in my class can say that the director with the "open door policy" cares about anything other than herself and her ability to make money without giving the education that one expects from grad school. And why bother having a school if all you do is "teach yourself"? Many other CRNA programs don't baby their students, but also give good lectures (not by fellow students and former graduates who have not had a full year of experience). The clinical experience is good, but I have heard the docs and other CRNA's say that they can tell the school isn't teaching people correctly. I didn't pay money to self teach nor am I "lazy", but you can't throw questions on tests and quizzes that aren't covered in lectures OR reading. Unfortunately this school was set up as a money maker and is in it for the wrong reasons. FHCHS hopped on the wagon to open one up but potential students can research the facts about this place. I am glad I got through but it is no thanks to the staff that hide behind religion to justify what they do.

Apr 07, 2011
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Please
by: Anonymous

This place is nothing but a joke run by a clown

Apr 03, 2011
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Really?
by: JLR CRNA

Barry students only know one way to give anesthesia? That's funny, bc I went to Barry and I work for JLR. I have to work with students practically every day. These people are unprepared and few students were hired because the company has buyers remorse for the ones from the last class that we DID hire. If you have weak schooling you turn out weak clinicians. The school employs several graduates to teach that haven't even been out a year. Be careful what you say about other schools because they are probably the ones you work with on a daily basis.

Apr 01, 2011
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open door policy
by: AH

bc PD lets the students teach while she sits in her office LOL, just kidding a few of us are reading the board right now, the general consensus is we don't want to look back on all the atrocities that happened here, but look forward to working by May and yes making some money

Apr 01, 2011
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ok
by: JAS

please, explain the high turnover of "faculty", and the other students that do the teaching, not other students. The reputation of the school and on paper results of this place's shortcomings speak for itself. Glad you have had a good experience here, the other 90% have not. No I am not lazy, yes I will graduate and yes I will pass my boards, put please don't try to sugarcoat this school, it is what it is. Call Barry what you will, they know their stuff. This anesthesia group has just hired 5 of them to match the 5 hired from this school. What of the other 15 or so? They were so good the group passed them up for new grads of a competing program?

Apr 01, 2011
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Haha
by: Anonymous

Ok PD whatever you say! Explain the 40% fail rate on the boards

Mar 30, 2011
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Good School & Experience
by: Anonymous

When you run a business whether it be a store or a school or even a church, it's hard to please everyone. My experience at this school has been a good one, some days better than others. I entered the program knowing that it was new, and would have some kinks to iron out. I also realized that as a Masters student, I shouldn't expect to be spoon fed and I can't get upset because I didn't make an A on every quiz or every exam I took... it's a nurse anesthesia program; it's supposed to be hard. The tutors can't teach you everything there is to know, as the previous writer said, a lot of it is self education. Some people are just lazy, and don't want to read the Textbooks and assigned readings.

Clinicals have been great. I have worked with a lot of anesthesiologists and CRNAs and have a unique advantage in that I learn a different way to do anesthesia everyday. I have worked with a few Barry Grads and they only know how to do anesthesia ONE way (regardless of the case); that's because they were exposed to just one preceptor before they were thrown into the deep to sink or swim. Rumor has it that one of the reasons why students are not left alone is because they were being taken advantage of. I'm not the one getting the big bucks to care for the patient, I'm there to learn...so I really don't mind them staying in the corner and letting me do my stuff.

The PD has an open door policy and I can just walk into the office to see her or the assistant without making an appointment. How many CRNA schools have that? Anesthesia school is what you make of it, and I'm glad I chose this school.

Mar 29, 2011
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I disagree
by: Anonymous

Most any graduate program is what you make it. I never expected this program to hold my hand. I did expect that it wouldnt be perfect and would have a lot of bugs to work out being a new program. I did expect to be provided the resources to learn and for the clinicals for the most part thanks to the anesthesiologists. I taught myself the book work and while i wish I had better teachers i ended up teaching myself and that is what you so in grad school in any program. I absolutley know of 2 states where srna's do NOT practice independently. The anesthesiologists were great about encouraging independent thinking. It was the newly graduated Crna's who were the worst with a few noteworthy exceptions. I have never had a surgeon not want to work with me and in fact have had docs who have let me take care of them or their family members. Would you ever allow a non board certified physician to work on you??? I wouldnt let any one touch me or my child who wasnt and yet we do so I am thankful to have my angel anesthesiologist neaeby to ask questions of and i dont mean " hey can i do this?" but more in depth scientific research based questions on our practice. So I continued to get the most for my thousands of dollars plus interest by learning book knowledge in class and in clinical along with the doing. I have seen at least 60 different ways to deliver aneathesia from the MD's and I'll bet you independent barry or wolford or whoever didnt get that. So without going into all the negatives which I am not refuting, the messages above covered it pretty well, i am proud to be graduating with my masters in nurse anesthesia and I did it here and inspite of all the negatives will pass the boards as all the others did before us. So that should say a lot for all of us who overcame the obstacles of a new program and conquered. Now lets quit whining and go make some money.

Mar 26, 2011
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maybe there is a reason
by: Anonymous

people are unhappy with this place...BECAUSE ALL THE GRIPES ARE THE TRUTH

Mar 24, 2011
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evil has a home
by: Anonymous

and its in the PD office. 2 MORE WEEKS then Ill never have to see it again!!!! PEACE OUT! And I highly recommend this school it's one fantastic experience after another, laughter echoes through the halls, rainbows and kittens are EVERYWHERE!!! YEE HAW!

Mar 22, 2011
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additionally
by: Anonymous

any PD who refers to previous job position as being at "Loser-ana"
State tells you pretty much what you need to know about her. Incidentally I am from "Loser-ana" as is most of my family and I don't appreciate that.

Mar 22, 2011
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nepotism
by: Harvey Wallbanger

If you go here familiarize yourself with this concept

Mar 09, 2011
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it is simple
by: Anonymous

If you don't believe the reviews on here, look at the board pass (or more like mass fail) rate.
Call up the PD and ask how many people dropped out voluntarily at the beginning of this semester rather than waste money (hint:20%)

Call up a surgeon and ask how comfortable they feel letting a senior CRNA man their room without anyone else in the room (none, it's a rule they can't be left alone)

Call up a CRNA that works for FH and ask an opinion of the students the school is producing.
Then make your own decision on whether to spend 100G here!

Mar 08, 2011
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graduating
by: Anonymous

seriously, I have been job searching and the employers want to know about my trauma experience. They also don't know that I have NEVER been left in a case alone. My friend is a senior in another area program where they get to do their own cases. I am frustrated that the head of this program does NOTHING about this. I haven't been taught by real teachers, only teaching assistants who are fellow students and I asked about this when I applied and I was told they only teach occasionally. Occasionally means ALL THE CLASSES. I need to vent because these people kick people out for no reason so I never said anything the whole 2 years. I seriously feel unprepared for the work world. I agree with the others on here, nobody is happy and this program was thrown together as a money maker and I was a guinea pig. PD has had about 15 jobs prior to this one. I would say look elsewhere if you want a decent education. I just want to be a good CRNA and not hurt anyone. I don't think this school did their duty to give me what I paid out the nose for

Mar 05, 2011
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Because
by: Miserable

The inept people running the program have made me so, had I known then what I know now I never would have come here

Feb 18, 2011
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10 other Florida schools for CRNA!
by: Anonymous

So why pick this dump

Feb 14, 2011
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"senior" srna
by: Anonymous

contaminated sterile field with patient asleep on table!!! I had to reset up again in a hurry. MD anesthesia said this is typical. I just want to come to work and get my job done, now we all have to babysit

Jan 26, 2011
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Fhchs srna
by: Concerned worker

I work in surgical services at Florida Hospital and it's widely agreed that this program is an embarrassment. What kind of place has a 40 percent failure rate.

Jan 25, 2011
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biggest
by: Anonymous

waste of my money...EVER

Jan 18, 2011
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no accreditation
by: Anonymous

because of the poor pass rate. the pd does tell some whopper lies. I was told that there would be a trauma rotation to rival the other schools in the area. Like Barry. Which incidentally has a 100% board pass rate. There are senior students that teach the lectures because there are only 2 staff members, pd and assistant. I asked if there would be tutoring available for help and I was told no, but lo and behold!! For the new class there is! Amazing! It was smoke and mirrors to get people to come here with a certain reasonable set of expectations, then pull out the rug and change the game plan as often as it suits her. Also by the time you figure out that yes, in fact, a "religious"school would lie its too late, they have your money. I honestly feel bad for the patients that will be taken care of by this batch of students. However, its not their fault for thinking they might get a decent education. Its the fault of the pd whose lies spill off her tongue. Makes you wonder how she looks in the mirror every day

Jan 17, 2011
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Trauma
by: Anonymous

Every interview I've been on has asked me about a trauma rotation and it seems like they want candidates to have had some sort of trauma exposure

Jan 17, 2011
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False advertising
by: Anonymous

True about no trauma rotation despite the pd blatantly lying that there would soon be one. That's not true. The biggest trauma center belongs to ORMC aka Barry. Its just been amazing all the lying going around here.

Jan 13, 2011
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No trauma
by: Anonymous

No trauma rotation here

Jan 12, 2011
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I know
by: Also

and probably shouldn't put it on here but there is at LEAST one lawsuit filed. The school has only been opened since 2008!

Jan 12, 2011
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experience
by: Florida Hospital

has been an absolute nightmare. I am done in April, I have been reading these comments- all true btw- and wondering really how I made it through with these people still intact. Since there are no jobs in FL anyway I plan on passing my boards and getting as far as humanly possible away from this place. Such bad memories! It's too bad because other friends of mine that went to grad school at least had some fun stories or a good rapport with the teachers after graduation, not here. The 2 teachers were more like terrorists, maybe trying to cover up lack of ability to effectively run a school, you were too worried about getting kicked out you didn't notice/ask questions about all the shady things going on here. I went to clinical sick to my stomach every day because sure enough whatever questions they asked me were never covered in class. Imagine that for 26 months. Never recommend this place, never want to talk about it again after April. I will have PTSD for sure :(

Jan 10, 2011
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Shameful
by: ConcernedCRNA

I have personally heard nothing good about this program, except for the one comment here from anonymous, who I suspect is faculty. I challenge the program administration to comment on the poor ratings and further more the poor board pass rate. I encourage anyone thinking of going to this program to contact the COA and gather true board pass rate info. 40% is last I heard.... wow!! As a CRNA I am afraid of what programs like this do to our reputation. This is a serious matter that should be addressed by COA... Scary.

Jan 09, 2011
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Interesting take on this school
by: A

What upsets me is that I am about to graduate and for some reason the docs and crnas will not leave senior students alone in the rooms with the patient so they basically tell you what to do so you have no autonomy. So here I am looking for a job and scared. No backup from the school on this one because nothing has changed.

Jan 08, 2011
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Class 2012
by: Bb10

It's not WHAT you know here (they can't teach you much anyway) it's WHO you know. So if you are a special friend or relative this should be a cakewalk. If you are the regular joe rest of the class bring a barf bag to class

Jan 06, 2011
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Esl?!?
by: SAB

I interviewed here last spring. The head of the program asked me if I would be agreeable to taking an English as a second language class and reapply next year. I've been an American citizen for 11 years and a nurse for 15. I applied to UNF and was accepted, my accent never came up. I believe it was because I am Iranian.

Dec 07, 2010
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123
by: TGIF

Rumor has it the assistant is bailing out, that will spell trouble for them because she was the only half decent teacher.

Dec 06, 2010
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SDA
by: Anonymous

Best plan is to say you are SDA til you graduate lol!

Dec 05, 2010
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Horrible
by: Anonymous

place run by horrible people, only care about getting your money and giving you a half a** education, after you sign on the dotted line and give your deposit you are on your own. Don't expect this place to be around too long with its awful reputation and no professional staff

Dec 02, 2010
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SDA
by: anonymous

Oh yes, the Florida Hospital system is run by SDA, very SDA heavy, president of college SDA and chair of the program SDA, and unfortunately yes there is PROFOUND favoritism to those who are SDA,(seventh day adventist).

Dec 02, 2010
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Don't understand
by: Real MD

but the director of this school makes people like patients, families,surgeons and other colleagues believe she is an "MD" not a Ph.D. You run a program instructing students on how to become CRNA's, shouldn't you be proud to be one instead of pretending to be something you are not?

Dec 01, 2010
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Against non-SDA's, really?
by: Anonymous

But it's not an SDA school... is it??? I thought Middle Tennessee was the only Seventh Day Adventist CRNA program. Are most of the teachers SDA?

I'm honestly baffled, because I'm SDA and last time I checked, there aren't many of us out there. Middle Tennessee only has like 1-5% of it's students who are actually SDA's... and it's an SDA school!

Are there enough of them that faculty could actually play favorites like that?

Does SDA stand for something else? Please clue me in.

Dec 01, 2010
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prejudice
by: Anonymous

Prejudiced against students that are non SDA, if you ARE SDA you could be blind in one eye and they would still pass you :(

Nov 22, 2010
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Confused
by: Anonymous

Just took SEE exam, worried about boards. No clue as to why this place can't just teach you what you need to know to pass. I will be glad to be done with this place once and for all.

Nov 01, 2010
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Those
by: Anonymous

who can't do...teach. Those who can't teach...administrate.

Administrator still "teaches" that's why the board pass rate is so poor

Oct 25, 2010
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withdraw
by: Anonymous

If you like being told to withdraw every time you get a bad grade (due to the bad teaching) or seek help, then this is the place for you! Once you withdraw you get to repay for classes you already took so the joke's on you

Oct 11, 2010
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Just disorganized
by: Anonymous

Unfortunately the numbers speak for themselves, however it is still a new program, clinical experience is good, maybe they will iron out the issues soon

Oct 04, 2010
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Joke
by: Anonymous

This school is terrible. There is only a core staff of 2 with a high turnover of other faculty members in only 3 years. No rhyme or reason to the curriculum save for the fact that the person that runs the program may be bipolar, you might get a good grade depending on the mood of the day

Aug 21, 2010
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forget it
by: TAM

I take a star back!

Aug 21, 2010
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Bad
by: TAM

What a sad thing it is when a school accepts them and then takes them on a ride to rival any theme park.

[The teachers] seem to not teach them [students] the things they need to know and make them jump through hoops...knowing that everyone just wants to not rock the boat and get the degree.

Poorly thought out curriculum, classes taught mostly by teaching assistants. The only reason it gets 2 stars is because the clinical experience is taught by a great group independent of FH. Good luck to anyone that gets on this ride, bring plenty of dramamine and money and hang on.

Aug 18, 2010
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WHOA!
by: Anonymous

Smells like a PD has been in this forum, there is NO WAY any student in their right mind would give the place 5 stars. Student grades seem to be manipulated at random. Anesthesia group now hires mostly Barry grads with some Wolford too. Rumor has it they are far more competent.

Aug 18, 2010
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Tough place
by: Anonymous

I am in the program now, whoever wrote the previous comment is one of the lucky ones since 40% of the class failed their boards, now I am worried about passing mine :(, there must have been a lot more bugs in my class

Jun 06, 2010
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Lacking support system
by: Anonymous

Staff of 2. They use the senior students to teach the clinical skills in the lab and to teach several of the anesthesia classes (they do a poor job of teaching). They use only one anesthesia group for clinical experience and they have the greatest say in whether you stay in the program or not. The anesthesia group also sits on the selection committee for selecting the students to start in the anesthesia program.

In other words, you pay the school to train you and give you support but the anesthesia group makes the final decision about your future (in getting in the program or continuing in the program) and the director of the program abides by their decision.

Most of the other anesthesia schools use more than one anesthesia group. The reason it is important that schools use more than one anesthesia group is because if you have a problem with one group, the school has the choice to move you to another hospital with another group and give you a fresh start.

May 28, 2010
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Couldn't have picked a better school!
by: Anonymous

I am an alumni of FHCHS anesthesia program. I just graduated in April and passed boards last week! What a relief. I must say that I was truly very happy with the entire program, even with the small "bugs" that seem to plague a first class. The program director and assistant director always had an open door policy and were very supportive. Anesthesia school is hard enough, I cannot imagine going through the process without their help, encouragement and support. As for clinical, it could not have been better.....maybe if it started at 10:00 am instead of 6:00 am! No other program in this region offers dedicated rotations, especially pain block rotations, and full concentrated months devoted to one speciality. It was amazing. I have heard many grads from other area schools comment " you actually do hearts and lines?". You couldn't pick a better place to prepare you for practice. Good luck making your decision.

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